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Jeffrey draper's avatar

Hi everybody; I am the father in this story, I want to thank Larry for sharing our story and getting it out for everyone to hear. Things have to change in the medical industry and the only way to do it is standing up for your self and your children. We did just that and we were retaliated against. Feel free to ask me anything.

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Larry Cook's avatar

You’re welcome Jeffrey!

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Di Chez's avatar

God be with you all! Special place in hell for all these people! Never forget earth is not our home and God is our vindicator! They'll figure out the hard way all that money they love won't buy them a cellphone in hell to call the Culligan Man to come bring water!!!

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Joy Lucette Garner's avatar

My comment from just a moment ago:

"Midwifery in CA is a total SCAM! It's just another way for homebirths to be routed into the hands of doctors!!!! The midwives in CA are under the medical establishment's complete control!

And most likely, the ONLY reason the placenta didn't properly deliver is that the midwife clamped the cord! If let ALONE the placenta WILL deliver in anywhere from 15 minute to as much as an hour, without ANY issues! The fact that midwife was there at all, is the ONLY reason these people ended up at the hospital!"

My daughter was told by her midwife she would be required to have a hospital birth if she didn't stop her labor (which was INCORRECTLY diagnosed as premature). The EVIL midwife informed my daughter she could drop by the hospital to get a shot that was PERFECTLY SAFE, and that would halt her labor so she could have her baby at home a month later.

When my grandson was finally born, he was HUGE and IN TROUBLE. He was having convulsions for the first year of his life. Turns out they had the due date a month off, AND we found out that the injection they'd given my daughter is KNOWN to injure babies!!! The midwives KNEW this and they LIED to my daughter about it!

Next kid: Do it ALONE! Skip the DANGEROUS California midwives!!! They do NOT care how badly the mother and child suffer!

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Queue the Revolution's avatar

It’s the same with midwifery in Ontario (Canada, not CA/California) as well. Likely in all of Canada. You have to get a doula if you want a home birth, not a mid wife. Or yeah just do it yourself with the help of your partner or having someone trusted nearby.

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Joy Lucette Garner's avatar

My 1st child was with a midwife. 2nd with only my husband there. 2nd birth was PERFECT.

98% of things that go wrong are caused by seemingly innocuous interventions, which often have domino effects that can be catastrophic.

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Queue the Revolution's avatar

This is 100% true. I found that out the hard way. Next time will be at home for me too.

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Queue the Revolution's avatar

I am so so so sorry this happened to you guys. Gut wrenching. Sooooo triggering for me because I have had horrible experiences with coercion and forced treatments and leveraging fear against me in the hospital system, all concerning the birth of my child. My partner was also on their side. This is HORRIBLE and I feel so deeply for you and especially your wife and child. This makes me so angry. Stories like this make me wish unspeakable things would happen to the people who did this to you and continue to do similar crimes unfettered.

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GravityRx's avatar

So sorry you had to endure this dreadful, imo criminal, situation. I just posted an experience of my niece in the main responses. Be well, soldier.

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Michelle's avatar

I thank you for sharing your story, and I’m truly sorry your homebirth experience went south. I very much appreciate your warnings and wish your family all the best. I’m sure my opinion won’t be popular, but I would have appreciated not seeing quite so much in the photographs.

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Michelle's avatar

Specifically two of the photos.

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Eileen P Parker's avatar

Did you call a lawyer immediately? Just curious as to whether or not having a lawyer threaten them would have helped any.

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Jill Herendeen's avatar

FYI, my 5th baby's placenta took an hour to detach, w/ zero problems. Also, nobody has isolated "HIV" from the rest of creation, so there's no way to accurately test for its presence, much less prove that it harms anyone.

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Larry Cook's avatar

Thank you for sharing!

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Jill Herendeen's avatar

Any time.

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Jeffrey draper's avatar

Out of fear from a previous birth where she hemorrhaged(at the fault of the doctor ripping out the baby) in the last birth we were extra cautious and transferred rather early

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Jill Herendeen's avatar

Understandable. We had a (homebirth) midwife w/ us for that birth, & she wasn't concerned, so we weren't, either. This is not to say all midwives would be that chill about it--I haven't conducted a poll of homebirth midwives about this. 3 other midwives we'd had previously had (2 of them CNMs) had been determined to get that placenta out promptly; that 5th birth had been my first opportunity to just wait for it. Am trying to remember whether she even cut the cord b4 I pushed that placenta out. She explained that there's some tribe or something somewhere in the far east that never cuts the cord; just carried the placenta around w/ the baby until the whole thing falls off. :-)

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Joy Lucette Garner's avatar

Sounds like you finally got to see a truly "natural" birth. One out of 5 midwives will actually permit it. Sounds about right.

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Sara-lee's avatar

"some tribe or something somewhere in the far east that never cuts the cord"

Lotus Birth

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Jill Herendeen's avatar

That may be what it's called nowadays, in the West....

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Joy Lucette Garner's avatar

So, if one is aware a doctor might yank on the placenta and CAUSE them to hemorrhage, it's important to hurry oneself to the doctor;-) Perfect logic. The midwife keeps her license by delivering as many of her clients as she can into the doctor's hands. If not for the midwife wanting to hurry things up, there would never have been a problem. She likely clamped the cord too soon, (while it was still delivering blood back to the baby) and caused it to clot inside the mother and delay delivery of the placenta. Without this intervention, the placenta would probably have delivered swiftly ad completely, eliminating the need to YANK on the placenta and risk the mother's life in doing so.

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Joy Lucette Garner's avatar

EXACTLY!!! They found an excuse to deliver that poor mother and the baby into the doctor's hands. If left alone everything was going to be fine.

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Jill Herendeen's avatar

Yes, but, "everything going fine" at someone's home was anything BUT fine for the hospital in particular & Big Pharma in general.

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Joy Lucette Garner's avatar

Exactly! BINGO!!

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Kathy Palmer's avatar

DID THE HOSPITAL VACCINATE THE BABY, TOO? DID THEY GIVE THE HEP B, VIT K, EYE DROPS AND RSV SHOT? THAT POOR BABY. WHAT IS IN THE RETROVIRAL DRUGS?

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Jeffrey draper's avatar

Absolutely not, we held our baby in our arms the whole time. If we would have revolted like most people recommended they would have ripped him out of our arms and done all of the things you mentioned to him!

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Jeffrey draper's avatar

Antiretroviral drugs are used in combination with each other. 3 drugs in total, all must have each other to work properly. They are inhibitors stopping the reproduction and synthesis of HIV into your RNA

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Alex D's avatar

There's no virus. Germ theory is just a theory never proven. All these meds are poison

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Joy Lucette Garner's avatar

The "antivirals" are nothing more than venom peptides, and they are VERY toxic. That entire sick routine was engineered by Dr. Fauci! Turns out the treatments are what killed all of those "AIDS" patients, not a virus. HIV positive patients who avoided the killer drugs lived on just fine, and later tested negative for HIV. Go figure.

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Dr.Don Hall's avatar

1984 in Real Time!

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Clairity Blue's avatar

Public health was developed in the early 1900s as a totalitarian Marxist regime in which the state owns the body of citizens and can do as it wants for "the greater good." This is one more example of how public health ideology has been allowed to consume our healthcare system and society writ large. We have to work together against public health tenants which are fundamentally against biomedical ethics and freedom.

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Jen's avatar

Outrageous treatment. You had every right to get a confirmation of the HIV test. They had no right to drug your baby on the basis of one likely false positive test. This must stop.

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Abigail Starke's avatar

Soooooo horrible 😫😖😡🙏

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Stephanie Smith's avatar

This is sick and a lawsuit against hospital, CPS, law enforcement... CALL get hold of Robert Michael... house of Marcus dot org he is currently ready to take down ALL family law/courts...

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GravityRx's avatar

My niece has an 8 year old boy. Born 2017 BC. Small hospital in South Carolina.

After delivery, the baby was on her chest skin to skin. Her husband, my sister and my BIL were in the recovery. Everyone was a little tired but also excited and amazed at the birth of the child.

In the first hour a nurse came in and said that the child needed to get his first inoculations.

My niece was horrified and went complete "Regan Exorcist" on the nurse and screamed "There is no way you are taking my child and sticking a needle in him". She was livid and completely unmovable.

Her quick-thinking husband took the nurse to the door, "Why don't you come back in about an hour. Let me talk her down...etc".

With that he and my BIL swaddled up the infant and left the hospital.

My niece and sister waited for the nurses and when they returned, she demanded to be discharged. Whether it was AMA or ATR, it didn't matter. She was leaving.

(Against Medical Advice - Against Treatment Recommendations)

That boy has never had any shots, ever. Sure, he gets the sniffles, a few skinned knees and bruises, but is never sick. The only medicine he has ever had is chicken soup and sympathy. He loves meat. He's a hotshot in little league, hunts and fishes with his dad and does woodworking projects. He is a precocious delightful boy.

Recently:

Child: Mom, you ever heard of a sweet tooth?

Mom: Yes

Child: Well, I have a bacon tooth because I like bacon and not candy.

It stuck; that's his nickname. Bacon Tooth

Their birth was before the Covid insanity. This story further enforces my DO NOT COMPLY conviction. I was in healthcare for 30 years and retired in Jan 2020. I avoided the patient facilities as much as possible. Only inoculations I ever had were in the early 60s.

Takeaway: You do not need "Healthcare" if you're healthy.

Food is your pharmacy.

Stay away from hospitals.

- Donated

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Baldmichael's avatar

Hospitals even in the UK are filled with ignorant doctors and nurses. As regards bacon one has to be careful as that gets unnecessarily poisoned.

https://baldmichael.substack.com/p/sodium-nitrite-e250-the-poison-in?utm_source=publication-search

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Eileen P Parker's avatar

This is no longer the USA I was born in -- in 1952!! Not even the USA in which my sons were born, in a hospital, in 1982 & 1985! I'm so sorry that you went through this!

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Crystal Cartmell's avatar

so don't return/engage with the system/ my heart breaks for you

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Nuala Norris's avatar

Please God, your little boy will feed himself well.

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Kari's avatar

My prayers and solidarity are with you! I, too, had a horrible experience after being transported via ambulance from my otherwise perfect homebirth because I hemorrhaged. It was discovered during an ensuing D&C that I have uterine fibroids - never previously diagnosed, and which were the cause of the hemorrhage (and one kind attending physician told me the hemorrhage had nothing to do with the homebirth, that it would have happened even if I'd delivered in the hospital).

A different (female) doc at the hospital literally shriek-screamed in my face, multiple times, in front of my newborn, my 4 year old, and my mom, "DO YOU WANT TO DIE?! DO YOU WANT TO DIE?!" simply because I was refusing a transfusion because I didn't want Convid vaxxed blood. My now-6 year old is still traumatized. My mom, my husband, and I each calmly explained to that 🤬 exactly why I didn't want vaxxed blood, citing not only findings of numerous doctors and scientists, but also my own family members' horrific side effects from their shots (and that of an unvaxxed spouse, from his wife's shots shedding, in one case), including myocarditis, nearly fatal brain aneurysm, and a stillbirth. The doc arrogantly gaslit and dismissed our concerns as "nothing but conspiracy theory and coincidence". She then proceeded to lie in the hospital notes that I refused a transfusion "out of fear of contracting COVID from vaccinated blood". I NEVER said a single thing about being "afraid of Covid" and in fact I'd had it while I was 5 months pregnant and it was nothing more than a regular old cold or flu. The next 4 shifts of nurses apologized to me because of how she treated me. If I wasn't afraid of her siccing CPS on us out of pure spite, I would have absolutely lost it and gone off on her. I should have filed complaints against her license but the whole experience dropped me deep into PPD/PPA that I'm just finally crawling out of, 2+ years later.

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Joy Lucette Garner's avatar

Midwifery in CA is a total SCAM! It's just another way for homebirths to be routed into the hands of doctors!!!! The midwives in CA are under the medical establishment's complete control!

And most likely, the ONLY reason the placenta didn't properly deliver is that the midwife clamped the cord! If let ALONE the placenta WILL deliver in anywhere from 15 minute to as much as an hour, without ANY issues! The fact that midwife was there at all, is the ONLY reason these people ended up at the hospital!

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